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scriptikus is not online. scriptikus
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26 Dec 2009 10:17 AM
I have already discussed this with builderman and he said they would consider it mos definately but to post it here to so they can here your opinions on the matter to and possibly give other ideas.

My idea is to encode script,parts,vehicleseats, everything in random letters that the server can generate and then read when needed. That way when exploiters search the memory of the server they cant search in normal letters because its randomized. If they cant find torso or a part of a script they can edit it. This would end exlpoiters and loopkiller exploiters. Also I do beleive this would work as i am a ex-exploiter. So if you like this bump it with your comment. If you dont then please dont post. But this will end loopkillers. Of course, you wouldnt need to change your scripts because the server would do it for you. If roblox don't do this i will attempt to make a script converter but I believe roblox might do it because builderman said he would consider it most definately. I will be sending this out to other mods such as telamon and others like anaminus.
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scriptikus is not online. scriptikus
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26 Dec 2009 10:35 AM
ya'll please post your comment on this
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rendzer111 is not online. rendzer111
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26 Dec 2009 10:51 AM
Well, you are pretty right.
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kirby568 is not online. kirby568
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26 Dec 2009 10:55 AM
Well No because People mostly hack in old games cause its easier,but new scripts that they have made are also the same thing,like I know someone who goes game to game that are popular and loopkills everyone useing cheat engine 5.5 watch is very powerful download for hacks and for roblox it will be hard to prevent it.And if they could do that theres still some very smart hackers out there that can do lots more.


--kirby568
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rendzer111 is not online. rendzer111
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26 Dec 2009 11:46 AM
It are people that just downloaded a VIRUS on their computer.
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TaslemGuy is not online. TaslemGuy
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26 Dec 2009 11:47 AM
No.
That wouldn't help, it would just confuse the server.
Perhaps you'd look up the math involved first?
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Tomohawkmissile2 is not online. Tomohawkmissile2
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26 Dec 2009 11:49 AM
LET ME CLEARIFY YOUR SIMPLE HEAD:

CHEAT ENGINE IS FOR EDITING VALUES AND NUMBERS

PROGRAMS LIKE FIDDLER2 ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT CAUSE LOOPKILLING AND FLYING, AND INSERTING STUFF INTO ONLINE GAMES.
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flamepike is not online. flamepike
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26 Dec 2009 11:50 AM
it could cause lag
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TaslemGuy is not online. TaslemGuy
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26 Dec 2009 11:58 AM
Tomo, Cheat Engine, when properly applied, CAN do those things, too.
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kruse170 is not online. kruse170
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26 Dec 2009 12:05 PM
Sounds plausible to me (I'm horrible at scripting...).
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piemario is not online. piemario
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26 Dec 2009 12:22 PM
actually in some games things can mess up cheat engine. my brother tried loopkilling but he couldnt. it rarely happens when you cant but idk y
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piemario is not online. piemario
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26 Dec 2009 12:24 PM
also i know how the loopkill hack works. it may cause a small bit more lag but maybe every couple senconds roblox automatically fixes the scripts back to what they were. however this might disrupt leaderboards as the values would get reset
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scriptikus is not online. scriptikus
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26 Dec 2009 12:38 PM
This is actually workable builderman said it sounds good
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TaslemGuy is not online. TaslemGuy
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26 Dec 2009 12:41 PM
"Builderman" isn't a person.
Thats an automated reply.
He says it to everyone.
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scriptikus is not online. scriptikus
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26 Dec 2009 01:10 PM
No he doesnt he is a person. Automated replies cant talk the way he told me
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superdimensionmaster is not online. superdimensionmaster
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26 Dec 2009 01:14 PM
He typed it up and then made it automated.

Anyways, that wouldn't work. You could use the cheat engine to make a script that runs within the game and then it wouldn't matter how random your letters were because the script you inserted would be doing the work and not the cheat engine itself.
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scriptikus is not online. scriptikus
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26 Dec 2009 01:17 PM
but the server wouldnt read your script only the ones that started in the game or were put in by owner
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Hamster111 is not online. Hamster111
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26 Dec 2009 01:19 PM
cheat engine just can change the speed of a character in a game it can change the value ( money,numbers,and other stuff) thats all it does
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scriptikus is not online. scriptikus
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26 Dec 2009 01:21 PM
Hamster no it dont, i use to exploit with it, it can change scripts ,make em, etc..
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deathnoob8 is not online. deathnoob8
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26 Dec 2009 01:24 PM
no,that wouldnt work.

1.It will confuse the server, the servers will crash and the whole game will crash.
ROBLOX will be ruined

2.If somehow roblox gets past #1 it still wont work cause people could still locate where to put the hack script no matter how random it is.
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pugzy is not online. pugzy
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26 Dec 2009 01:26 PM
Hamster you are right, but it also adds in objects.
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masterchief717 is not online. masterchief717
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26 Dec 2009 01:38 PM
i agreee with this forum
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scriptikus is not online. scriptikus
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26 Dec 2009 01:39 PM
no because death the letters wouldnt be read like torso it would be like P[l]r

Another thing it wouldnt crash. The server would store the way it generated and use that to read it. If you say it isnt possible your wrong. the thing is other games uses this kinda thing.

Also if you mess up the smallest amount of information on the client with cheat engine then the client crashes, not the server
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godsmain is not online. godsmain
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26 Dec 2009 01:41 PM
Also, another way is that every 15 seconds the game checks the exe. files and makes sure they are not changed. Meh, not sure, some games can detect cheat engine and refuse to run if its been ran once unless you turn off the cpu.
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scriptikus is not online. scriptikus
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26 Dec 2009 02:15 PM
Ya, if roblox does do some way of stopping this then i will be glad
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